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Chris, you've fallen into a trap with a lot of other GPS junkies. There is so much more involved to this than just GPS specifications. If you haven't worked with the advertising exchange data feeds directly then you are NOT an expert on this. I'd be happy to discuss this topic with you at length. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/geolocation-fraud-rampant-ever-cybersecurity-ad-fraud-researcher/

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This is funny. Here's the article you should have quoted:

https://medium.com/@importanttech/we-tested-mobile-gps-gnss-accuracy-and-found-some-surprising-results-b9ec35873e2e

It's funny because I used a Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ in my tests, and it was the best in theirs. And the Apple phones sucked.

Still plenty good enough to show people going to ballot boxes. Make sure you get down to Figure 6 where they show long path accuracy, which is what would apply to the ballot mules.

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No falling into traps Doug. The NYT, as linked in my previous comment, actually showed a sample of the data. And I have a newer posts where the data vendors offerings are covered, and they gel with the NYT. And of course my own testing confirms the accuracy.

The bottom line is, it is absolutely, positively, no doubt about it, possible to track people driving around to stuff a bunch of different ballots boxes. And there's plenty of video showing people stuffing those ballot boxes.

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Taking your phone out for a ride is fine but keep in mind that many software implementations, like Apple Maps, utilize Kalman Filtering techniques to combine input from the phone accelerometer in order to improve the quality and smoothness of the GPS location provided. Now, what can you tell me about the data being provided by the advertising exchanges where TTV bought their data? This is the entire ballgame so I'd like to understand what you know about it. I work with those feeds every day.

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TTV has not revealed which data vendors they purchased data from. Here is my other post with a link to a site which reviewed the data vendors.

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If you meant to include a link, I didn't see it....

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I am SO glad I saw your article this week (7-2023) and referenced back to this one.

You've done a GREAT job with this information.

Have you contacted any of the various people involved? This is laid out so most anyone can understand...might be helpful to them.

Some of us are just recently catching on to the wonders of Substack so need to do lots of more digging. 🙂

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Mary, I suggest you look at both sides of this. The TTV people refuse to release the data involved as well as their analytical approach to identifying "mules". The burden of proof is on them and they are not living up to it. They are being sued by at least one accused mule as well as Georgia/GBI over their refusal to substantiate their claims. I'm sure they made a lot of money with their movie and after the dust settles, they will probably be up millions. What is sad is that so many people buy into their claims without seeing actual proof of crimes.

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I suspect those who protested and were hunted down with the SAME technology would beg to differ with you.

They HAVE offered it to both the FBI and GBI.

As to money, I suspect they have spent far more buying the data from the companies and paying salaries for their people than they have made. If you were working, you'd want to get paid.

I've followed Catherine since Holder/Learner/Obama targeted she and her family business. Her testimony before the Senate was inspiring.

Sorry, I'll trust her and Greg over most anyone in this administration or thw current corrupt DOJ. As to GA...if Kemp and Raffensperger are involved...that's all I need to know.

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Hello Mary. I've come to the conclusion that Doug is another left wing troll. I've shown you real world examples of just how good GPS accuracy is, as has the NY Times, and yet he blathers on. And the NYT article I quoted is from 2019, long before J6.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/12/19/opinion/location-tracking-cell-phone.html

Yet here Doug is blathering about a different article. I'm gonna give Doug a chance to post a sample of this data he claims he works with on a daily basis, and if he doesn't do that, and follow some rules, he's gonna get blocked.

But again, do your own tests of the accuracy like I suggested and you'll see just how full of shit Doug is.

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Thanks. I hope I'm smart enough to ask questions about things I have little knowledge but I also won't back down on things I have studied and spent HOURS reading and researching.

I tend to agree with you. I read his article....just a blogger with an agenda. Thanks for your article. I seldom read the NYT but on occasion they accidently report something good.

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Okay Mary, a recap as of right now. Doug bashed True The Vote multiple times for not releasing their data, claimed he works with the same type of data on a regular basis, but then when I demand he show me a sample of that data he claims he can't release it due to contractual obligations.

Where are the laughing emojis when you need them??? I deleted most of his comments and blocked him.

I've come to the conclusion that Doug is just one more left wing troll who seeks out any mention of 2000 Mules and tries to cast doubt and waste the time of the author. It happens on Twitter/X on a regular basis.

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Well, as it turns out, the True The Vote people finally admitted in front of a judge that they didn't have a shred of evidence regarding the entire 2000 Mules scam. You yourself wanted to see them release the raw data all of this was based on, and rightly so. They never did release it. https://apnews.com/article/georgia-elections-true-vote-ballot-stuffing-199113b47bc2df79c63fdf007cd23115

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thanks for the update. I suspect he's FoS as you do.

Have you seen the lates TTV video with THEIR version of the games GA officials have played?

I totally agree about the trolls and bots on X...IMO it's basically a cesspool but some times things of interest are posted.

I'll look forward to your next posts.

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Remember how Rush Limbaugh referred to "random acts of journalism" on the left?

The other thing about the 2019 NYT article is that it deals with privacy. Privacy may be the only area where left wingers have at least occasionally supported better policies than republican politicians.

The NYT did that story to highlight the lack of privacy, and they tracked people to and from their homes, their workplaces, and also to other companies, and they did all of that by purchasing a set of the same data that TTV says they purchased. You'll note that the NYT uses the words "precise location" multiple times in that story.

Bottom line being hell yes you can track people's movements throughout the day, such that it would be easy to tell if they were visiting multiple ballot drop boxes all across town, and in between drop boxes were visiting democrat NGOs.

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ABSOLUTELY

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